Mandriva

[jkerr82508]

2011 was forked from cooker a few weeks ago. If you have been running cooker you will have been on 2012 development since then. You should have switched your repo's to 2011 at that time. Unlike past releases cooker is no longer frozen before release; instead the new release repo's are opened and cooker development continues without interruption.

(IIRC you can confirm which release you are using from /etc/product.id and/or /etc/release.)

Jim

Edit: It looks as though cooker switched to 2012 around the 10th of July, and so the forking of 2011 must have happened at about that time.

[viking60]

Thank you Jim!
You are so right:

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 cat /etc/release
Mandriva Linux release 2012.0 (Cooker) for x86_64


I am on cooker 2012
Now I wonder if I can find those 2011 repos or if I have to wait until the release.....
Edit:
Changing /etc/release from
Mandriva Linux release 2012.0 (Cooker) for x86_64
to
Mandriva Linux release 2011.0 (Official) for x86_64

That toke care of the heading in MCC
removing all media with:

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urpmi.removemedia -a

Now I am hoping that when adding an individual mirror It will suggest 2011 mirrors.
And........
No luck there. Trying to guess the placement of the 2011 repos based on the 2012 structure....
Grr..
Going for MCC and trying the add button to the right.......
And EUREKA! Life is good I just downgraded to the official version
Well I managed to add the Official 2011 repos anyway - fun to play - but not recommended. I guess I could remove a lot of software and reinstall now to get the official version.
But I am lazy so i'll wait for the official release. But technically I am now running 2011 with a lot of 2012 apps (I think).

Not so lazy after all I downgraded KDE to 2011 and did some Dolphin testing ++ Video coming up.....

[viking60]

Ok so I have downgraded KDE to 2011 and thought I would give Dolphin a go. It has a new simpler look, and as usual the conservative Linux community hates it. New users will find it much less intimidating though.
What the old geezers -like me- do Not like:
No preview of pics
No menu bar

It can all be configured in the settings under that wheel on the top right of Dolphin so I am good to go.
For this test I also decided to have both the standard menu and the rosalab starter on the same panel in order to satisfy my schizophrenia regarding the menu. Now I can use both depending on my mood. The rosalab menu is confined to the bottom right (Well TimeFrame does not work!) and the standard menu is to the left in it's usual spot.
So here we go:

As you can see I get a shutdown when I try to drag pics from my server to the local folder! It might be due to my playing around a bit much (It goes for dragging between local directories too). Can anyone here confirm this behavior?

[rolf]

I think I drag my feet, a lot. Konqueror is what I have used for over 10 years and that is a lot of getting used to how that particular browser works. With my machine, all the isos from rosalabs have had a problem with X not starting, perhaps a video card problem (nVidia GeForce 9500 GT), maybe related to this bug: https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=62825 but there is no apparent interest from devel.

As a consequence, testing is problematic; I'm not motivated to go to extra lengths. Perhaps, VirtualBox masks some of these bugs with hardware.

Thanks for the report.

[viking60]

Hm yes I would really expect some reaction to that bug.
As for dragging the feet that is not a bug it is a feature:

[rolf]

[viking60]

OK so I gather that Dolphin trouble was exclusive for me since no one else has been able to confirm it.
http://forum.mandriva.com/en/viewtopic. ... 5&t=135594

I downloaded Mandriva with Kernel 3.0.1 provided by Rosalab/MIB and had another go at it.
The installation went fine even if the live install complanied about some missing file and being unable to create another.
Clicking through went fine and everything works.
To get flash I added the non-free repos and installed the plugin -so far so good. When updating in the terminal/Konsole I get a lot of:

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Error in file "/usr/share/applications/kde4/bluedevil-sendfile.desktop": "virtual/bluedevil-sendfile" is an invalid MIME type ("virtual" is an unregistered media type)


This happened when I removed mozilla-thunderbird and reinstalled only the norwegian version (I don't need all the other languages in the world). But it does not seem to influence the functionality - it all works.
So moving on to Dolphin:
As I have stated before it is very "simplefied" so I will try to set it up to my conservative liking and drag over my pics to another directory.

I don't know if MIB has done anything to Dolphin but now it works just fine.
So far I cannot see why the Official version should not come with kernel3. The TimeFrame menu option on the Rosalab menu is still just to fill out the space. Nepomuk is activated and it does absolutely nothing

[rolf]

Looks like it is, largely, functional. Lan says, "Nice music"

[viking60]

Yes I got like this myself.
Now I have been a bit worried about deteriorating quality in Mandriva with spinoffs so I toke a look at my SUSE installation .......

....And now I am quite happy with Mandrva again

[rolf]

When updating in the terminal/Konsole I get a lot of:

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Error in file "/usr/share/applications/kde4/bluedevil-sendfile.desktop": "virtual/bluedevil-sendfile" is an invalid MIME type ("virtual" is an unregistered media type)


This happened when I removed mozilla-thunderbird and reinstalled only the norwegian version (I don't need all the other languages in the world). But it does not seem to influence the functionality - it all works.

FWIW, I just got that sort of MIME type error when updating firefox/thunderbird et al from MIB

Google brought me to Mageia bugzilla: https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342

I located/urpmi'd a 2011 devel package:
ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mandrake/Mandr ... x86_64.rpm
which went in by itself, no complaints. Maybe it makes a difference, maybe not.

[rolf]

However, beware, the 2011 man pages use a .xz compression, it seems, not the .lzma used previously, in 2010.2

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man /usr/share/man/man1/desktop-file-validate.1.xz
gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook gobbledy-gook

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Well, take my word for it: man spits out some gobbledy-gook that the board software chokes on....

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Please notify the board administrator or webmaster

[rolf]

One more postscript...

ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/mandrake/Mandr ... x86_64.rpm

That goes in, by itself, and displays the new .xz-compressed man pages and the old .lzma-compressed man pages. The changelog shows support for .xz was patched into man some time ago but, maybe, a cryptic reference to removing old patches provides a clue why the current man doesn't work.