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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 14 Feb 2011, 03:25

Meh. Yeah, posted to the Gaming section about that.

Meh again. My kde notification system has been all screwed up since updates on Feb. 6th - think I may try uninstalling/reinstalling kde. Not sure right now, but I might. Either that, or downgrade it and see if that helps.
kde's been a bear lately. I'm getting to where I wish I didn't have to have it for the few programs I use from it. :\
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 20 Feb 2011, 23:14

Pop quiz time.

What does Arch use for a graphical boot?

Also, warning. The new udev & new kernel are not playing nice with each other again. My /boot is in ext2, and it wouldn't recognize ext2 all of a sudden. Downgrading back to previous kernel helped.

Really strange; it affected both drives that I have. Until I shut the computer down completely, I had both drives coming up that the /boot device wasn't recognized.

Looking back over /var/log/pacman.log, I see in it:

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[2011-02-20 17:44] WARNING: /boot appears to be a seperate partition but is not mounted
[2011-02-20 17:44]          This is most likely not what you want.  Please mount your /boot
[2011-02-20 17:44]          partition and reinstall the kernel unless you are sure this is OK


The hell it wasn't mounted. I wouldn't have been there if it hadn't been. After that, it showed all else doing fine, until I rebooted, and it wouldn't boot, not recognizing the ext2 /boot partition.

Edit 2: Never mind. I got the kernel update to go, by running it in init 3. Figures. :P
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 21 Feb 2011, 13:33

:-D Everyday story to learn from there. Updating now....
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 21 Feb 2011, 16:23

Yeah, I think I'm just going to go back to doing all of the updates in init 3. At least then I know for sure if it's a real bug or not.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 21 Feb 2011, 17:14

I need to turn off hourly cron, and leave just daily and monthly. I'm having super issues with it. I've gone through the wiki on cron & crontab, and nothing works.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 21 Feb 2011, 20:31

Needless to say you do not use the rvause background changer then - it has a cronjob every minute here (Mandriva). On Arch I use the b1o BG changer (java).
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 21 Feb 2011, 21:14

No, I don't. I even mentioned in the thread for it that I wouldn't be using it. I prefer the background I have for several reasons.

However, that's not to do with this. What happens is every time that cron runs on its hourly schedule, it bogs me down here on the computer, and it's not necessary to run for me. At all. Just the daily, weekly, and monthly ones are. I used to turn it off on Mandriva via MCC, and also on other distros that had a graphic interface to turn the hourly off with. There isn't one here. I never really "got" cron or how to get it to do what I want via terminal.

Here's what happens when I run the Arch wiki basic commands (where they show them as regular user):

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:) crontab -l
bash: /usr/bin/crontab: Permission denied

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crontab -e
bash: /usr/bin/crontab: Permission denied


When I try this from Handling errors of jobs:

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:) sendmail dedanna < message.txt
bash: message.txt: No such file or directory


I have also tried to edit cron as root user, with several errors as well.

Here's /var/spool/cron/root:

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[root@dedanna dedanna]# cat /var/spool/cron/root
# root crontab
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE MANUALLY! USE crontab -e INSTEAD

# man 1 crontab for acceptable formats:
#    <minute> <hour> <day> <month> <dow> <tags and command>
#    <@freq> <tags and command>

# SYSTEM DAILY/WEEKLY/... FOLDERS
@hourly         ID=sys-hourly   /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.hourly
@daily          ID=sys-daily    /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.daily
@weekly         ID=sys-weekly   /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.weekly
@monthly        ID=sys-monthly  /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.monthly

... which is as it should be.

Edit: It appears however, I'm not a member of the group "users", although I should be? I'm not getting this.

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:) cat /etc/passwd | grep dedanna
dedanna:x:1000:1000::/home/dedanna://bin/bash
.:[ dedanna@dedanna.rocks.net : 13:22:42 : ~ ]:.
:) groups dedanna
adm disk lp wheel ftp rfkill video audio optical floppy storage power usbmux camera postgres dedanna


Eh, well, I am now, just added to it. Will retry with crontab later on.

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[root@dedanna dedanna]# groups dedanna
adm disk lp wheel ftp rfkill video audio optical floppy storage power --->users usbmux camera postgres dedanna


The question still remains though of what to edit, and how, to turn off hourly cron.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 22 Feb 2011, 04:09

I need to find out how to install Arch saving /home. It's time to put it on the front drive, and all the wiki does on it is confuse me more.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 22 Feb 2011, 19:18

That is pretty easy. In fact the new ISO will separate /home, / and swap for you if you pick the default install.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 22 Feb 2011, 19:20

Leaving /home intact? I mean without losing data?
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 22 Feb 2011, 22:30

No I was just talking about the structure. You need to backup your home directory to an extarnal disk or something first. Use the script in the software section that will do nicely.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 22 Feb 2011, 23:22

Right, but that's what I'm asking about is if there's a way to save /home

I've been able to do it on several distros, just can't figure out how to keep /home with Arch, just formatting /
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