OK, will keep that in mind.
I think I've fairly well decided that I will go stable 13.2 - I'm not finding what kernel it's on though out of the box...
3.16. Ugh. Just the one I don't need.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
I found out what the deal is with the repo, but it's not letting me post the info here; I get a General SQL error.
Pick it up here: http://pastebin.ca/3160400
Pick it up here: http://pastebin.ca/3160400
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"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
I've been advised by the openSUSE Google+ Community to install Tumbleweed instead, and not to upgrade. They say the upgrade for now is rather messy.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
Yeah Tumbleweed is OpenSuses rolling release. If it works; I prefer the "install once and update forever" approach
In fact I think I will switch to Tumbleweed on my 13.2 install now - I'll let you know how it goes....
So the wiki tells me to move backup the old repos like this:
However as we have established; backups take space and are for chikens so I simply removed the old ones like this:
Then I added Tumbleweed:
Time to do the distro upgrade then:
It needed me to state if I wanted to keep old apache packages ignore or remove apache - so I removed it (better to install the right one later).
Then I got a s... load of conditions from Adobe - Suse ++ where I had to read and accept etc etc so I did.
Then the upgrade started - and it is still running..... Plenty of time and opportunity to achieve the traditional OpenSuse result....me falling on my nose....
Suse tells me to:
...I bet you can't wait....
...
...
And I fell on my nose but only because I ran out of space
I fixed that
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3812
And the upgrade went - sort of.
I had to reset my keyboard to the global Valhallian locale - since it defaulted to english other than that is seems fine:
Still no Yast Gui though.
I find OpenSuse a bit buggy. There are a few things I would expect them to have under control that pure community distros don't - but that does not seem to be the case.
In Mageia the control panel fires in OpenSuse it does not
And I got this error
http://serverfault.com/questions/268662 ... -libraries
So I have to fiddle around with rpm to make zypper work again
And firefox does not start either so I cannot download that rpm - in fact this system is pretty useless now.
Yup ...the same old story with OpenSuse and me
In fact I think I will switch to Tumbleweed on my 13.2 install now - I'll let you know how it goes....
So the wiki tells me to move backup the old repos like this:
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mkdir /etc/zypp/repos.d/old
mv /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo /etc/zypp/repos.d/old
However as we have established; backups take space and are for chikens so I simply removed the old ones like this:
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sudo rm -R /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo
Then I added Tumbleweed:
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zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss repo-oss
zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss repo-non-oss
zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/debug repo-debug
zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/ repo-update
Time to do the distro upgrade then:
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sudo zypper dup
It needed me to state if I wanted to keep old apache packages ignore or remove apache - so I removed it (better to install the right one later).
Then I got a s... load of conditions from Adobe - Suse ++ where I had to read and accept etc etc so I did.
Then the upgrade started - and it is still running..... Plenty of time and opportunity to achieve the traditional OpenSuse result....me falling on my nose....
Suse tells me to:
So I will honor the coffee part If it is going to be fun remains to be seen..Now go make some coffee and have a lot of fun when using our rolling release.
...I bet you can't wait....
...
...
And I fell on my nose but only because I ran out of space
I fixed that
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3812
And the upgrade went - sort of.
I had to reset my keyboard to the global Valhallian locale - since it defaulted to english other than that is seems fine:
Code: Select all
inxi -r
Repos: Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug.repo
repo-debug ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/debug
Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-non-oss.repo
repo-non-oss ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss
Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-oss.repo
repo-oss ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss
Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update.repo
repo-update ~ http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/
thomas@linux-go1m:~>
Still no Yast Gui though.
I find OpenSuse a bit buggy. There are a few things I would expect them to have under control that pure community distros don't - but that does not seem to be the case.
In Mageia the control panel fires in OpenSuse it does not
And I got this error
http://serverfault.com/questions/268662 ... -libraries
So I have to fiddle around with rpm to make zypper work again
And firefox does not start either so I cannot download that rpm - in fact this system is pretty useless now.
Yup ...the same old story with OpenSuse and me
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
Well, they did say upgrading is a bit messy right now. I realise you upgraded to a previous version of it but I had the impression my source meant all-around. I have little niggles with my install which was a clean one, missing components of menus, all kinds of things, so I expect even more niggles in an upgrade.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
I have this issue:
https://forums.suse.com/archive/index.php/t-6682.html
and that is pretty basic stuff
It is the same old story:
Opensuse promises a lot and looks really sexy so I download it.. and try it... and want to like it ...and
Oh well only five days to go for OpenSuse 4.2.1 so I can repeat the circle.
...
Since this installation has worked for quite some time I decided to give it another chance. I downloaded the Tumbleweed net install x86_64 and will try to upgrade with that.
I'll let you know...
It reports the Yast error during upgrade and wants me to file a bug report - but we knew that.....Ignoring
It reports that the installation of glibc failed...that can't be good....ignoring
It reports that it a lot of stuff failed and I can only ignore all....
The windows and the warnings pop up so often that it takes a lot of time clicking ignore and OK... I am beginning to remember why I dislike OpenSuse now
Ok After hours of installing it failed - thanks for wasting my time
Then I tried a fresh net-install and it starts and prompts looking good and fails during partitioning. So even the fresh install fails.
I am ready to conclude now:
OpenSuse is poor quality remind me to stay away from it
If you want a rpm distro with lots of backing then Centos is way better. Mageia and Fedora are alternatives - I would prefer both of them over OpenSuse atm
It is hard to see how Suse can compete with RedHat in terms of stability and reliability - but to be fair - I did play around with Tumbleweed so Fedora would be a better benchmark. And the last time I checked Fedora worked just fine.
https://forums.suse.com/archive/index.php/t-6682.html
and that is pretty basic stuff
It is the same old story:
Opensuse promises a lot and looks really sexy so I download it.. and try it... and want to like it ...and
Oh well only five days to go for OpenSuse 4.2.1 so I can repeat the circle.
...
Since this installation has worked for quite some time I decided to give it another chance. I downloaded the Tumbleweed net install x86_64 and will try to upgrade with that.
I'll let you know...
It reports the Yast error during upgrade and wants me to file a bug report - but we knew that.....Ignoring
It reports that the installation of glibc failed...that can't be good....ignoring
It reports that it a lot of stuff failed and I can only ignore all....
The windows and the warnings pop up so often that it takes a lot of time clicking ignore and OK... I am beginning to remember why I dislike OpenSuse now
Ok After hours of installing it failed - thanks for wasting my time
Then I tried a fresh net-install and it starts and prompts looking good and fails during partitioning. So even the fresh install fails.
I am ready to conclude now:
OpenSuse is poor quality remind me to stay away from it
If you want a rpm distro with lots of backing then Centos is way better. Mageia and Fedora are alternatives - I would prefer both of them over OpenSuse atm
It is hard to see how Suse can compete with RedHat in terms of stability and reliability - but to be fair - I did play around with Tumbleweed so Fedora would be a better benchmark. And the last time I checked Fedora worked just fine.
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
Yeah, I think I'm done with it unfortunately. The problem is, what to replace it with.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
I really like Centos. It is some hassle setting up the network because Centos does not connect by default (it is supposed to be a feature).
But read this thread and you should be home clear:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3609
.. And I also have to add that I did that that OpenSuse install quite roughly ..and tend to develop a temper when I get those black eyes
Still Centos with the Fedora epel repo makes a very good desktop.
But read this thread and you should be home clear:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3609
.. And I also have to add that I did that that OpenSuse install quite roughly ..and tend to develop a temper when I get those black eyes
Still Centos with the Fedora epel repo makes a very good desktop.
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)
Yeah, I've run CentOS too. What version is that?
I'm also hotly tempered by things not working right now, so know the feeling.
I'm also hotly tempered by things not working right now, so know the feeling.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html
No gods, no masters.
"A druid is by nature anarchistic, that is, submits to no one."
http://uk.druidcollege.org/faqs.html