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Taxes: Apple the Irish company

Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 10:48
by viking60
Apple has had a deal with the Irish government where they only had to pay 2 % taxes. This is a fairly low rate so Apple put both their holding company and the Sales company for the world wide sale in Ireland.

One of the companies in Ireland is Apple Operations International; a holding company without employees or activity. Internationals sales are transferred to this company which serves as a financing company for Apple - also referred to as a treasure chest.

In the US Apple did pay takes from whatever was transferred from Ireland. Now the EU has reacted and claims that Apple has made an illegal deal with Ireland; calling it "illegal Irish state aid".

Apple is not the only company with this kind of tax planing so companies like Starbucks and Fiat should be worried too.
So far, the focus is on three separate cases – Ireland's treatment of Apple, the Netherlands' arrangement with Starbucks, and Luxembourg's treatment of Fiat


It is hard to see how these companies have done anything wrong - the EU must be criticising Ireland, The Netherlands and Luxembourg here and not the companies that have struck the deal.

Apple claims that they have accepted a deal from the Irish in a situation where they wanted to recruit Tech companies.
Apple boss Tim Cook told the US Senate under oath last year that agreements had been struck by the company's founder Steve Jobs in Dublin in the 1980s. Cook said Ireland was "very much recruiting tech companies" and "did give us a tax incentive agreement to enter there"


Since Apple is a big employer in Ireland the Irish government will fight this and maintain that they have not breached the EU state aid regulations.
Apple, which is now the second biggest employer in Cork, where its international headquarters are based, says it pays all taxes due. Commission experts say it paid just 3.7% tax on non-US profits of $31bn last year. The Irish government has rejected suggestions of a special deal with Apple. Dublin said it was confident that Ireland had not breached state aid rules and would defend its position vigorously


Anyone with a deal that is to good to be true should be worried, the EU has set out to make sure that the taxes are paid where the revenues are made and not:
..allow profits to be shifted from the country where the revenues are generated to another where corporation tax rates are lower.


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Re: Taxes: Apple the Irish company

Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 11:56
by jkerr82508
Luxembourg is not in the EU

Luxembourg was one the six founding members of what became the EU and is still a member:

http://europa.eu/about-eu/countries/member-countries/

Jim

Re: Taxes: Apple the Irish company

Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 12:52
by viking60
Oops how could I miss that :oops: (I confused Luxembourg with Lichtenstein there)
I'll correct it above - Thanks

Re: Taxes: Apple the Irish company

Posted: 29 Sep 2014, 14:52
by jkerr82508
IIUC Luxembourg (like Ireland) is used for "legal" tax reduction schemes. Lichtenstein has been used in the past to avoid the eyes of tax collectors. Like many so-called "tax havens" its attraction lay in its banking secrecy laws, which enabled tax evaders (and other criminal types) to hide their wealth.

Jim

Re: Taxes: Apple the Irish company

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 11:38
by R_Head
The world is a business Mr Beal...

Re: Taxes: Apple the Irish company

Posted: 30 Sep 2014, 18:46
by Snorkasaurus
R_Head wrote:The world is a business Mr Beal...

:B

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