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Security Camera Setup

Postby Snorkasaurus » 14 Jun 2014, 22:58

Greetings Earthlings,

I am hoping that you folks might be able to provide some advice on the purchase of some security cameras. I live in a sparsely populated rural neighbourhood which has recently seen some vandalism and theft... in fact there are some neighbours who are under the impression that they know who is doing it but have no proof. I would like to get that proof if I can. Here are my basic requirements:
  • Night shots/IR: Most of the vandalism seems to be at night and so obviously it would make sense that I would need cameras that have decent "night vision". I have done some surfing to try to find some appropriate cameras and have seen a number of them listed with specs on how many meters they can see in the dark. Of the few "night shot" cameras I have tried I have found them to be mediocre at best unfortunately. Is there anything in particular I should look for to obtain the best night shots?
  • WiFi: I do not like wireless networks and always prefer wired if I can, but since I am in Canada I would have to bury any cabling out to my cameras because of the winter - and I do not feel like digging a couple of 200 foot trenches to lay cable. So, the ability to connect to 802.11g with WPA2 would be pretty important.
  • Live view: I want to be able to open an application (preferably a browser) and view any one of the cameras across the network. I would really like it if any and all software needed for using the cameras would not be dependent on Java, .NET, BlahBlah Runtime files, or any other "interpreter" type dependencies or browser plugins beyond regular Flash. PTZ (pan, tilt, & zoom) are not essential for live view but are a bit of a bonus I guess.
  • Motion Detection Auto-Record: I would like them to be capable of recognizing motion and starting to record video or at least interval images. I am perfectly willing to setup a separate server for this function and in fact already have a couple of machines (XP and Debian) that run 24/7 that this kind of service could be added to (assuming that it does not depend on Java, .NET... blah blah blah).
  • User Authentication and Encryption: I would like it if access to the camera were SSL encrypted and authenticated for obvious reasons.
I was thinking of something like this but don't know if I would need something with better night vision, don't have any experience with the software, and don't know if I would be better off finding good software first and then adding in whatever kind of cameras I want.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Security Camera Setup

Postby viking60 » 15 Jun 2014, 01:10

I think that camera looks just fine but I am not that good at surveillance :mrgreen:
The software will decide the function and what you need is a software that captures motion so that you boxes are not filled up with lots of pics of that empty parking lot.

Motion seems perfect:
http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/WebHome
(It is in the Arch repos . I bet it is in Debian too)
For Windows I know that I was able to capture only motion with some software from CoffeCup back in the stone ages (It worked well).

Regarding light and to ensure motion for the camera: you could set up a motion detector that lightens up the area (detector +lamp).
It can be infrared or that good old stumble wire or sound based.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Motion-S ... B001LJKLT4
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Re: Security Camera Setup

Postby Snorkasaurus » 15 Jun 2014, 02:00

viking60 wrote:I think that camera looks just fine but I am not that good at surveillance :mrgreen:

I should have known. :-)

viking60 wrote:Motion seems perfect:

Looks like it is in the Wheezy repos, I'm gonna setup a box and see what it does... I can just use a USB camera for testing.

viking60 wrote:Regarding light and to ensure motion for the camera: you could set up a motion detector that lightens up the area (detector +lamp).
It can be infrared or that good old stumble wire or sound based.
http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Motion-S ... B001LJKLT4

Actually the reason I was hoping for a camera that could "see at night" was for two reasons... the first is that a "motion light" would require a digging a trench to run power to it (there is no way batteries would survive when it is -30° out there) and the second is that I do not want to scare them away before getting a good picture of them. In fact I already have a motion light (see photo).
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The other problem with motion lights is that here in the woods they never turn off... as soon as a deer, bear, coyote, or dog passes by it will come on, and if it is summer time the moths will swarm the light and keep it on until morning.

Hmmm, I gotta join the NSA's forums and ask the surveillance experts eh. :-)

S.

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Re: Security Camera Setup

Postby viking60 » 15 Jun 2014, 08:52

Yeah the NSA would know, and should give you advice and finally do something people want for their tax payers money.

And scaring them off does not sound to bad - a Rottweiler would do the job.
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I know for a fact that they are cuddly teaddy bears (but don't tell anyone; it would ruin their reputation):
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But I guess your goal is to get them rather than scaring them away so wireless camera with motion control software it is then :-D
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Re: Security Camera Setup

Postby Snorkasaurus » 15 Jun 2014, 13:58

viking60 wrote:And scaring them off does not sound to bad - a Rottweiler would do the job.

Heh... I have two. Actually one is Rotty/G. Shepherd and the other is Rotty/Husky/Miscellaneous. :-)

I tried out Motion a little last night and although the configuration is awful I think I might be able to use it... I'm going to pickup one of those cameras tomorrow and see if it works with Motion.

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