Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian Topic is solved
Moderator: jkerr82508
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
Funny, on a stock Wheezy install with bare OpenBox, oblogout works as root but not user (reboot, shutdown, and "xscreensaver -lock" don't work).
VLC will not run as root at all.
I'm not actually interested in a "looker"... just a "doer".
S.
VLC will not run as root at all.
I'm not actually interested in a "looker"... just a "doer".
S.
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
I have split the posts and moved this here from Software - Rednotebook
Jup doers are good .
You need a policykit to be able to log out or shut down as normal user.
Install policykit-1-gnome or some other policykit.
If you search for policykit in synaptic; what do you have installed?
Edit:
It looks like oblogout and Debian are not true friends - it is not in the repos - so it is probably not a good idea to use it then
I log out or restart or shutdown with the docky panel - as normal user:
Jup doers are good .
You need a policykit to be able to log out or shut down as normal user.
Install policykit-1-gnome or some other policykit.
If you search for policykit in synaptic; what do you have installed?
Edit:
It looks like oblogout and Debian are not true friends - it is not in the repos - so it is probably not a good idea to use it then
I log out or restart or shutdown with the docky panel - as normal user:
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
I have
But I would think that the problem is not dependencies since it works just fine as root (so all the dependencies must be there). I also do not need functions like hibernate or suspend, just reboot, shutdown, and logoff... so power related functions are irrelevant, just access to shutdown. I also have no synaptic since I am only doing a base install (no DE)
and then adding what I need. In the screenshot above the default is to have Desktop Environment and Print Server checked as well.
I should also note that installing a desktop environment at Debian install time provides ways for regular users to shutdown and restart by default.
S.
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep policykit
policykit-1 install
policykit-1-gnome install
But I would think that the problem is not dependencies since it works just fine as root (so all the dependencies must be there). I also do not need functions like hibernate or suspend, just reboot, shutdown, and logoff... so power related functions are irrelevant, just access to shutdown. I also have no synaptic since I am only doing a base install (no DE)
and then adding what I need. In the screenshot above the default is to have Desktop Environment and Print Server checked as well.
Code: Select all
sudo apt-get install xorg openbox xdm
sudo apt-get install obconf obmenu
sudo apt-get install xfce4-panel xscreensaver
sudo apt-get install python-central python-gobject python-imaging python-dbus
wget https://launchpad.net/oblogout/0.2/0.2.0/+download/oblogout_0.2-0-0ubuntu1_all.deb
sudo dpkg -i oblogout_0.2-0-0ubuntu1_all.deb
I should also note that installing a desktop environment at Debian install time provides ways for regular users to shutdown and restart by default.
S.
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
I guess it would be helpful to include that if I use the defaults for oblogout I get
If I install the hal package, I get the buttons but "shutdown" and "reboot" do nothing, and back in the console I get
If I install policykit-1 and/or policykit-1-gnome I get the same.
If I edit /etc/oblogout.conf and change "usehal" from true to false I get
If I type reboot at the command line I get
If I type /sbin/reboot I get
If I type sudo /sbin/reboot at the command line it reboots (after asking for password of course)
So... If I then edit the /etc/oblogout.conf so that the reboot function has the full path to /sbin/reboot I get
If I then edit the /etc/oblogout.conf so that the reboot function says /usr/bin/sudo /sbin/reboot I get
Okay, so I edit the /etc/oblogout.conf so that the reboot function says /usr/bin/sudo reboot (without the path to reboot) and I get
Oh I also tried adding this to /etc/sudoers
and it does allow me to use sudo without a password prompt, however it does not help oblogout find /sbin/shutdown
However, if I logout and log back in as root... BAM! It works under almost all of the above conditions.
S.
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/oblogout", line 97, in <module>
sys.exit(main())
File "/usr/bin/oblogout", line 92, in main
app = OpenboxLogout(config, local_mode)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/__init__.py", line 82, in __init__
self.load_config(config)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/__init__.py", line 264, in load_config
if not self.dbus.check_ability(button):
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/dbushandler.py", line 127, in check_ability
return self._halpm.CanSuspend
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/dbushandler.py", line 58, in _halpm
hal = self._sysbus.get_object ("org.freedesktop.Hal", "/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer")
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 241, in get_object
follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 248, in __init__
self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 180, in activate_name_owner
self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 278, in start_service_by_name
'su', (bus_name, flags)))
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in call_blocking
message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.Hal was not provided by any .service files
If I install the hal package, I get the buttons but "shutdown" and "reboot" do nothing, and back in the console I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/__init__.py", line 354, in click_button
self.dbus.restart()
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/dbushandler.py", line 143, in restart
if not self.__auth_perms("org.freedesktop.hal.power-management.reboot"):
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/dbushandler.py", line 94, in __auth_perms
if self.__check_perms(id):
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/dbushandler.py", line 80, in __check_perms
res = self._polkit.IsProcessAuthorized(id, os.getpid(), False)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/oblogout/dbushandler.py", line 50, in _polkit
pk = self._sysbus.get_object ("org.freedesktop.PolicyKit", "/")
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 241, in get_object
follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 248, in __init__
self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 180, in activate_name_owner
self.start_service_by_name(bus_name)
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 278, in start_service_by_name
'su', (bus_name, flags)))
File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 651, in call_blocking
message, timeout)
dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit was not provided by any .service files
If I install policykit-1 and/or policykit-1-gnome I get the same.
If I edit /etc/oblogout.conf and change "usehal" from true to false I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
sh: 1: reboot: not found
If I type reboot at the command line I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ reboot
bash: reboot: command not found
If I type /sbin/reboot I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ /sbin/reboot
reboot: must be superuser.
If I type sudo /sbin/reboot at the command line it reboots (after asking for password of course)
So... If I then edit the /etc/oblogout.conf so that the reboot function has the full path to /sbin/reboot I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
sh: 1: reboot: not found
If I then edit the /etc/oblogout.conf so that the reboot function says /usr/bin/sudo /sbin/reboot I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
sh: 1: reboot: not found
Okay, so I edit the /etc/oblogout.conf so that the reboot function says /usr/bin/sudo reboot (without the path to reboot) and I get
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
sh: 1: reboot: not found
Oh I also tried adding this to /etc/sudoers
Code: Select all
user ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
and it does allow me to use sudo without a password prompt, however it does not help oblogout find /sbin/shutdown
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ oblogout
sh: 1: reboot: not found
However, if I logout and log back in as root... BAM! It works under almost all of the above conditions.
S.
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
Well that sounds like a policykit problem, the policykit is not a dependency in Openbox.
I don't use oblogout in Debian because those external packages often cause problems.
What does
say?
What login manager do you use (GDM?)?
I don't use oblogout in Debian because those external packages often cause problems.
PolicyKit is an application-level toolkit for defining and handling the policy that allows unprivileged processes to speak to privileged processes.
It is a framework for centralizing the decision making process with respect to granting access to privileged operations for unprivileged (desktop) applications.
What does
Code: Select all
dpkg --get-selections | grep libpolkit
say?
What login manager do you use (GDM?)?
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
These are installed as dependencies of policykit-1 and policykit-1-gnome...
Just for turds & giggles I tried
But got the same results.
S.
Code: Select all
user@opendeb:~$ dpkg --get-selections | grep libpolkit
libpolkit-agent-1-0:amd64 install
libpolkit-backend-1-0:amd64 install
libpolkit-gobject-1-0:amd64 install
Just for turds & giggles I tried
Code: Select all
dpkg --add-architecture i386
apt-get update
apt-get install libpolkit-agent-1-0:i386
But got the same results.
S.
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
You do have the same installed as I have, but I have x86_64.
These things can also be set in the login manager (lxdm gdm kdm etc).
Have you tried to install docky and log out with that one? If you add the session manager from the menu then it should log you out or reboot.
A workaround could be
This will add the suid mode to shutdown so that the normal user can do it (run shutdown without sudo).
That should work like the one you tried in the sudoers file:
strange that it did not work....
These things can also be set in the login manager (lxdm gdm kdm etc).
Have you tried to install docky and log out with that one? If you add the session manager from the menu then it should log you out or reboot.
A workaround could be
Code: Select all
sudo chmod u+s /sbin/shutdown
This will add the suid mode to shutdown so that the normal user can do it (run shutdown without sudo).
That should work like the one you tried in the sudoers file:
Code: Select all
snorkasaurus ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
strange that it did not work....
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian Topic is solved
I think what I am going to go with is a gmessage (218k) script that I mostly stole from here with just a few modifications.
Then add it to the right-click menu for OpenBox like so
and then myscript.sh looks like this
Which presents me with this working prompt:
I guess since OpenBox is not a DE the authors figure there is no need to provide shutdown/reboot functionality.
Code: Select all
sudo apt-get install gmessage
Then add it to the right-click menu for OpenBox like so
and then myscript.sh looks like this
Code: Select all
#!/bin/bash
gmessage "What do ya wanna do?" -center -ontop -title "Hey!" -font "Sans bold 10" -default "Cancel" -buttons "_Cancel":1,"_Log out":2,"_Reboot":3,"_Shut down":4 >/dev/null
case $? in
1)
echo "Exit";;
2)
openbox --exit;;
3)
sudo shutdown -r now;;
4)
sudo shutdown -h now;;
esac
Which presents me with this working prompt:
I guess since OpenBox is not a DE the authors figure there is no need to provide shutdown/reboot functionality.
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
Yes that seems to be a pragmatic solution. But that one will still prompt for the password before it shuts down, will it not?
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
Ah so it did work. Your problem is pretty much solved then.
Manjaro 64bit on the main box -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz and nVidia Corporation GT200b [GeForce GTX 275] (rev a1. + Centos on the server - Arch on the laptop.
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
"There are no stupid questions - Only stupid answers!"
- Snorkasaurus
- Berserk
- Posts: 587
- Joined: 30 Dec 2013, 19:19
- Contact:
Re: Logout and shutdown as normal user in Debian
It isn't a pretty solution but it does work... and since when do I care about "pretty" anyways? :-)
Now if I could just find a file manager with a tree pane for less than 498M I'd be a happy camper. I tried about a dozen and then tried three or four Windows file managers via wine, but nautilus was the best I could find (weighing in at a portly half Gig).
S.
Now if I could just find a file manager with a tree pane for less than 498M I'd be a happy camper. I tried about a dozen and then tried three or four Windows file managers via wine, but nautilus was the best I could find (weighing in at a portly half Gig).
S.