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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby dedanna1029 » 11 Sep 2015, 23:32

OK, will keep that in mind.

I think I've fairly well decided that I will go stable 13.2 - I'm not finding what kernel it's on though out of the box...

3.16. Ugh. Just the one I don't need.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby dedanna1029 » 13 Sep 2015, 01:59

I found out what the deal is with the repo, but it's not letting me post the info here; I get a General SQL error.

Pick it up here: http://pastebin.ca/3160400
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby dedanna1029 » 14 Sep 2015, 10:50

I've been advised by the openSUSE Google+ Community to install Tumbleweed instead, and not to upgrade. They say the upgrade for now is rather messy.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby viking60 » 14 Sep 2015, 11:04

Yeah Tumbleweed is OpenSuses rolling release. If it works; I prefer the "install once and update forever" approach

In fact I think I will switch to Tumbleweed on my 13.2 install now - I'll let you know how it goes.... :tux5:

So the wiki tells me to move backup the old repos like this:

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mkdir /etc/zypp/repos.d/old
mv /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo /etc/zypp/repos.d/old

However as we have established; backups take space and are for chikens +1 so I simply removed the old ones like this:

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sudo rm -R /etc/zypp/repos.d/*.repo


Then I added Tumbleweed:

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zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss repo-oss
zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss repo-non-oss
zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/debug repo-debug
zypper ar -f -c http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/ repo-update


Time to do the distro upgrade then:

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sudo zypper dup

It needed me to state if I wanted to keep old apache packages ignore or remove apache - so I removed it (better to install the right one later).
Then I got a s... load of conditions from Adobe - Suse ++ where I had to read and accept etc etc so I did.

Then the upgrade started - and it is still running..... Plenty of time and opportunity to achieve the traditional OpenSuse result....me falling on my nose....
Suse tells me to:
Now go make some coffee and have a lot of fun when using our rolling release.
So I will honor the coffee part :coffee_cup: If it is going to be fun remains to be seen..
...I bet you can't wait....
:drummer
...
:drummer
...
:drummer

And I fell on my nose but only because I ran out of space
I fixed that
:A
viewtopic.php?f=25&t=3812

And the upgrade went - sort of.
I had to reset my keyboard to the global Valhallian locale - since it defaulted to english other than that is seems fine:

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inxi -r
Repos:     Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-debug.repo
           repo-debug ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/debug
           Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-non-oss.repo
           repo-non-oss ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/non-oss
           Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-oss.repo
           repo-oss ~ http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss
           Active zypp sources in file: /etc/zypp/repos.d/repo-update.repo
           repo-update ~ http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/
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Still no Yast Gui though.
I find OpenSuse a bit buggy. There are a few things I would expect them to have under control that pure community distros don't - but that does not seem to be the case.

In Mageia the control panel fires in OpenSuse it does not :snooty:
And I got this error
:A
http://serverfault.com/questions/268662 ... -libraries

So I have to fiddle around with rpm to make zypper work again :boohoo:

And firefox does not start either so I cannot download that rpm - in fact this system is pretty useless now. :wall:

Yup ...the same old story with OpenSuse and me :-D
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby dedanna1029 » 14 Sep 2015, 17:19

Well, they did say upgrading is a bit messy right now. I realise you upgraded to a previous version of it but I had the impression my source meant all-around. I have little niggles with my install which was a clean one, missing components of menus, all kinds of things, so I expect even more niggles in an upgrade.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby viking60 » 15 Sep 2015, 10:55

I have this issue:

https://forums.suse.com/archive/index.php/t-6682.html

and that is pretty basic stuff :berserkf

It is the same old story:
Opensuse promises a lot and looks really sexy so I download it.. and try it... and want to like it ...and :C

Oh well only five days to go for OpenSuse 4.2.1 so I can repeat the circle.
...
Since this installation has worked for quite some time I decided to give it another chance. I downloaded the Tumbleweed net install x86_64 and will try to upgrade with that.

I'll let you know...

It reports the Yast error during upgrade and wants me to file a bug report - but we knew that.....Ignoring
It reports that the installation of glibc failed...that can't be good....ignoring

It reports that it a lot of stuff failed and I can only ignore all....

The windows and the warnings pop up so often that it takes a lot of time clicking ignore and OK... I am beginning to remember why I dislike OpenSuse now :f

Ok After hours of installing it failed - thanks for wasting my time :berserkf

Then I tried a fresh net-install and it starts and prompts looking good and fails during partitioning. So even the fresh install fails.

I am ready to conclude now:
OpenSuse is poor quality :berserk2 remind me to stay away from it :f

If you want a rpm distro with lots of backing then Centos is way better. Mageia and Fedora are alternatives - I would prefer both of them over OpenSuse atm

It is hard to see how Suse can compete with RedHat in terms of stability and reliability - but to be fair - I did play around with Tumbleweed so Fedora would be a better benchmark. And the last time I checked Fedora worked just fine.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby dedanna1029 » 16 Sep 2015, 10:44

Yeah, I think I'm done with it unfortunately. The problem is, what to replace it with.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby viking60 » 16 Sep 2015, 11:33

I really like Centos. It is some hassle setting up the network because Centos does not connect by default (it is supposed to be a feature).
But read this thread and you should be home clear:
:A
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3609

.. And I also have to add that I did that that OpenSuse install quite roughly ..and tend to develop a temper when I get those black eyes :C
Still Centos with the Fedora epel repo makes a very good desktop.
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Re: OpenSuse again (13.1/13.2)

Postby dedanna1029 » 16 Sep 2015, 12:34

Yeah, I've run CentOS too. What version is that?

I'm also hotly tempered by things not working right now, so know the feeling.
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