And I'm saying it ain't gonna happen 'til they learn how to market and how to manage their money.
And, get a decent moderator for the English forum...
Mandriva is finished
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I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
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rolf wrote:I can see it now.![]()
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LOOOOOOOOOOLLL
WANT!!
WANT!!
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I ended up splitting this topic off, and moving the last part to the Lounge. If it turns out to be something more news-worthy, we can open a new topic here on it.
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It appears that Mandriva is still in the skids financially, and quite uncertain what's going to happen. According to Distrowatch:
Just wish we could access that link in the article right now (can't, as Mandriva's down ATM). Should give some real insight as to what's going on.
I'm beginning to be unsure as to all this supposed "buying out of Mandriva stock". I think it's time to kind of separate fact from fiction. Mandriva is very small, how is a Russian company going to suddenly just pick them out of all the more successful companies in the world (and yes, I saw the post from Anne on twitter about that; I'm wondering if that wasn't released just to stir interest? A stab out in the dark so to speak and hope it strikes? It wouldn't be the first time they've done that.) When there are so many that haven't even heard of Mandriva?
I think there's been a LOT of rhetoric released, but only time can prove me right or wrong on that.
Mandriva's restructuring, FreeBSD security interview, BSD Magazine update, SLED SP1 features, Compiz 0.9
Mandriva Following recent media speculation about the state of Mandriva's finances, the Paris-based Linux company finally published a brief press release detailing the current situation and giving a few optimistic hints about its future. As expected, the transformation will include some painful cost cutting: "A professional offer aimed at the major business markets (education, industry, services, retail) will meet the demands of clients seeking alternative and economic options in the field of heterogeneous IT systems management. This offer will be unveiled in the second half of 2010. In the meantime, and in the short term, Mandriva has begun a drastic programme of structural cost-cutting as well as raising funds to redress the financial balance and assure the long-term future of the company. Negotiations are underway with new investors who will be presented at the company's next general board meeting."
Just wish we could access that link in the article right now (can't, as Mandriva's down ATM). Should give some real insight as to what's going on.
I'm beginning to be unsure as to all this supposed "buying out of Mandriva stock". I think it's time to kind of separate fact from fiction. Mandriva is very small, how is a Russian company going to suddenly just pick them out of all the more successful companies in the world (and yes, I saw the post from Anne on twitter about that; I'm wondering if that wasn't released just to stir interest? A stab out in the dark so to speak and hope it strikes? It wouldn't be the first time they've done that.) When there are so many that haven't even heard of Mandriva?
I think there's been a LOT of rhetoric released, but only time can prove me right or wrong on that.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
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You go, aapgorilla! Always did have a LOT of respect for you. You tell it like it is, and stand up to the b.s. - you make me proud. Tell those stupid blind fanbois where to stuff it. Thank you.
Right on, dude. You and I were both seeing it before asshole made me leave there, and now those conservative twits are doing to you what they did to me for calling how the cow ate the cabbage. Dimwits. Don't you worry about those fanbois, aap. You got one right here of your own.
aapgorilla wrote:You know Red Hat's revenue grow more per week than Mandriva´ s total yearly revenue, how hard is it to see that the powerpack business model is flawed? How hard is it to see it drives away potential users which otherwise might later have chosen Mandriva in their corporate environment?
Right on, dude. You and I were both seeing it before asshole made me leave there, and now those conservative twits are doing to you what they did to me for calling how the cow ate the cabbage. Dimwits. Don't you worry about those fanbois, aap. You got one right here of your own.
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Speaking of which, where's all this Linagora money that's supposed to be ever so flowing thru Mandriva by now? Or that Russian money? Or this money or that money? Wait, what is Mandriva going to be doing again? Oh that's right. They're not telling. Probably waiting for something to just magically drop in their laps then.
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http://forum.mandriva.com/viewtopic.php?p=820921#820921

I think he knows what he's talking about. He has for years. Part of what I've been saying all along. Giving to them now, without knowing for 100% sure that they have capitol, is like enabling someone to commit suicide. It's nothing but a wasted, losing, and very long proposition. As long as nothing is said about an upswing on the way, they are slowly dying (which is worse than what I had imagined it would be; I expected them at some point this year just to go straight out; it's torturous). If one is going to invest in anything, then invest on the upswing of Mandriva so that they can maintain the upswing. Elsewise, what's the point.
wobo wrote:First of all many of you put Mandriva, the company, and Mandriva Linux, the distribution, into one box - that's entirely wrong.
Mandriva, the company, is in a situation where none of the recent informations talked about the Mandriva Linux distribution. Right now the company is owned by several investors (Wallix, the Russians, etc.). None of them said a single word about the distribution lately.
So, please stop these futile attempts to "Help Mandriva and give money" - it neither helps the company (several millions in dept) nor does it help the distribution (none of the money goes into the distribution). The money is lost.
Next:
Mandriva Linux is made by employees and contributors likewise. Take away one of the 2 the distribution would not survive (may be a basic stripped down version could be maintained by the employees). This can be easily proven by looking at the rpms. Take away all rpms maintained by contributors and see where that leaves you. Do the same and take away the employees and you'll get to the same result.
Next:
A community fork! Yes!! I'd like very much! But there are prerequisites to meet before you can even think about a fork. The main one is simple: numbers. Again, see how many different employees and contributors are involved in current Mandriva Linux - first you have to get them interested, then you have to build the structure which is necessary to organise the making and roll-out of the distribution.
When you have all this, then you can talk about a fork.

I think he knows what he's talking about. He has for years. Part of what I've been saying all along. Giving to them now, without knowing for 100% sure that they have capitol, is like enabling someone to commit suicide. It's nothing but a wasted, losing, and very long proposition. As long as nothing is said about an upswing on the way, they are slowly dying (which is worse than what I had imagined it would be; I expected them at some point this year just to go straight out; it's torturous). If one is going to invest in anything, then invest on the upswing of Mandriva so that they can maintain the upswing. Elsewise, what's the point.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
No gods, no masters.
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Yep.
I'd rather be a free person who fears terrorists, than be a "safe" person who fears the government.
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Well looks like they have lost all their capital. They will be needing fresh capital and I cannot see if there is a target that might pump money into the system. It is common that the board of directors makes a statement regarding the grounds for continued business when 2/3 of the capital is lost, I believe. If this is that statement it is uncertain if the conditions for continuance of the business is there.
This might be a formal cleaning up to make it easy for an informal investor to take over the business.
It also might be a preparation for bankruptcy.
This might be a formal cleaning up to make it easy for an informal investor to take over the business.
It also might be a preparation for bankruptcy.
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viking60 wrote:This might be a formal cleaning up to make it easy for an informal investor to take over the business.
It also might be a preparation for bankruptcy.
Exactly what I'm thinking. Either way they're dead.
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"They" - the company- do not need to be. If an investor is found they could continue. But changes will surly be made.
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