OpenMandriva

[viking60]

Thanks for the link
Let us hope that it will not lead to a peaceful Nirvana....

[Blackcrack]

Mmh, personnally I don't see disputes or fights now that most people that like to fight are not in the ground (or mostly not)

http://ml.openmandriva.org/pipermail/om ... hread.html

would be interresting if we are could have a rss or atom
all mailinglists..

best regards
Blacky

[arisel]

state of the openmandriva is described quite easily:

few, but active people on the technical front who got close to a state where others might already do a release.

However, as I do understand, even Per will wait with his release until we think it's ready to release. If he then adds a bit of artwork and maybe uses the more complex installer, calling the result moondrake, everybody should be fine. The good thing is that it's really easy to create your own isos from openmandrivas cooker, and as even the build system is easy to access, doing your own, customised version of omv Linux isn't that tough. I'm really looking forward to see other isos out there.
I don't know if Pers plan of pulling updates from cooker after release will succeed, though. That'll depend on how much moondrake forks away from the OpenMandriva software stack.

Btw: keeping old and new gnome in the distri is a hard job.. If we stay with this you at least will loose a weather applet. Had to remove it yesterday for incompatibility reasons

Cheers!

arisel

[viking60]

Welcome arisel

I would not loose to many calories over Gnome. I have been a Gnomer "all my life" and with the braindead "know it best" attitude in Gnome 3 I simply left it behind.
Gnome 2 was good and Gnome 3 could have been sensational. But it is not usable. Every time you update it the extensions do not fit anymore etc.
Resulting in the cleverest error message ever:

Oh no something went wrong

If the attitude of the devs changes it can still become a hit though - but then they must stop removing functionality that is there like shutting down the computer.
And they definitely should stop dictating where my screenshots should be saved.

Yes I know how to hack it with gnome-screenshot --interactive etc, but I should not have to.

Those Gnome devs need to get their head out of their arses and start listening. I do pretty much agree with Linus Torvalds, even if he still actually is using Gnome.
So screw the weather - we cannot do anything about it anyway

And I actually do look forward to making my own iso over at Unity if they get active again...

[Blackcrack]

heeeyy Arisel

hiho you *wave*

only one, between OMV and Moondrake i want be neutral so far..
but once want i say.. might it maybe not better to say.. Moondrake it's a Kind of freeing Mandriva like OM and not a forg,
because, Per is an/the exProjectleader of Mandivas Linux and now gives different misunderstood and there from has developed
Moondrake , so it has to branches and not forked... Mageia is a Forg, they have taken(in what is a first matter now hang together, it is no matter now), Moondrake is a branch/ a twig who be has grown just, from misunderstandings ... and should like it does see as a Sister Distro .
The good one what i see.. Per use the "old" installer, you are build an new one .. the openmandriva has this character,
the other have the "old" character.. with all was include and is part of So has the user to decide what it is used
so, at last good for the user and not bad for the developer.. and at last , if the Association decide to support Moondrake, it's shurely not bad for the Association for having 2 different Distro's under the Corrugated iron roof And have at last more for offering from one Pott
Maybe say's more [span]peoples[/span] Developers, more quality as Quantity .. but in the case of the Associations it's maby better to have more range and this from one pot to have one standard, there with a bigger standard with 2 Distros but the same rpm's ...

And at last can be a more huge Company incur as it is not can be with only one Distro .. The Association should be be glad that arose Moondrake ... finally , there can be more win as with only one Distro ..

And Per, you should become out/get it out to work in one pot (cooker/repo) with the same rpm's as in the associations Openmandriva..
why.. not double rpm's not different bug-fixing , not double work .. if both get it to have only one pot, win finally all.
to have one and only standard, achieve more peoples lastly ..

To the Association: should be possible to be different Distros unter the Roof, why,
more Distro's more selection and therewith more to offer, a bigger Collection..

there for it is good to have and not try, at all of the rpm/programs/libarys, like Gael did say.. a Wikipedia of Software ..
and in this point can create different Art or Distros arise. A Gnomelike.. KDE like Rosa.. maybe a WakerMaker or a fvwm Distro..
with a very bog Repository/Cooker it is possible to support all Distros . And all have a possible to configuration Draktools.. in any case .. a possible to configuration the Distro in the cli too !!

best regards
Blacky

[dedanna1029]

Btw: keeping old and new gnome in the distri is a hard job.. If we stay with this you at least will loose a weather applet. Had to remove it yesterday for incompatibility reasons

Oh, no. I get a full gnome 2.32 along side gnome 3, or without gnome 3, or I'm not interested. Period.

[Blackcrack]

humm, maby should add Gnome 2 and Gnome 3
and on kde 3.5 on one side http://www.trinitydesktop.org/ and the
light kde-desktop - https://blogs.kde.org/2013/04/11/hackwe ... ct-updated
https://build.opensuse.org/project/show ... ch%3Aklyde

want maybe a possible.. to have at all what the Mandriva/Mandrake user likes !!

for me it's an lightwight KDE desktop enough .. and i like the kde3.5 too
and by side works Gnome 2 perfectly for me too .. ooohh it's so hard ..

best regards
Blacky

[dedanna1029]

And not just Gnome 2. Gnome 2.32.

Oh, and if we're going to do KDE 3.5, we're also going to do Amarok 1.4.10.

[Woodguy2]

Oh, and be sure it will load from 3.5" floppy and run like greased lightning on a 386SX 16Mhz!

PS It is ok though, if it requires a full 2 Megabytes of RAM!

[dedanna1029]

Yeah, baby, you got it!

I wasn't kidding, btw, about Gnome 2.32 and KDE 3.5. Get after it, guys. Make me want this imaginary distro.

[Woodguy2]

Yeah, baby, you got it!

I wasn't kidding, btw, about Gnome 2.32 and KDE 3.5. Get after it, guys. Make me want this imaginary distro.

Hmm, Knew you were not kidding. I have this imaginary distro running in Vbox! The Gnome 2.32 and KDE 3.5 part is imaginary and will likely stay that way. I, for one, don't want to go back. Didn't like Gnome then, don't like Gnome now!

[viking60]

I liked it then - but I don't like it now. And what is going to come from it in OpenM without the weather? Gnome 3 is making the same mistake as they are doing with Windows 8 and Unity.

People did not want it - only the devs with inflated egos.

If you had asked any person 5 years ago how they would expect their computers to improve in the next 5 years: Then people would have said SSD, speed etc. Touch screen was certainly not on the top of their list.
If you had asked them about smartphones then it would have been up there. So these brilliant guys said "Same thing!" and developed "everything at once"

Talk about fiasco! It sent pc sales down - big time. Let us hope Intel can save it with the Haswell processor.

Alternatively we could wait until the smartphone actually can replace a fully fledged computer so you simply can dock it and play world of warcraft at home and work with CAD at work...
By that time Apple and Linux will be the market leading OS'es.