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Apple censorship put to the test

Posted: 17 Nov 2012, 12:52
by viking60
As we have reported before Apple does censor the content on their Hardware. So if you want to present a book in some of their Pads it must live up to the Apple moral standard.
This should be a problem for any editor all over the world yet they have been eager to make their products available for Apple.

Apple being an American company, does claim that "moral high ground" and will therefor not accept any nudity on their Apps. As we have seen this can lead to hopeless discussion regarding if Donald Duck is in fact nude etc.

Now there are some books in Denmark called Hippie 1 and Hippie 2 by Peter Øvigs Knudsen, that have been completely censored by Apple. The Author did offer to cover tits and other stuff with apples and that was accepted for a couple of days before Apple put the foot down again.
Apple does not give any reason to the author or to the publisher.

The Danish minister of culture will take this case to the EU and on some level he might have a good case.
It is simply impossible to write an ilustrated book about the hippies without showing nudity - they did burn their bras to manifest women's liberation and they had a rather dominating make love not war philosophy.
A love that very often also was rather physical. So it is completly natural to illustrate a book about it, with nudity.
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Hell Steve Jobs was even a part of it.... and did practice some free love himself.
And look at these hopeless Hippies from 1979:
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Do you know any of them?

So this attempt of Apple to make the rest of the world live up to their moral standard is kind of ...indecent.

OTOH I can see that Apple has a strong case here, because they did tell everyone about this up front, and people do not need to use their products. Apple does not have an exclusivity on these kind of products so people do have a choice - They can pick Samsung.

It is not Apple that is the idiot here - it is all those people who uncritically accepted their terms.

In a sense the Norwegian parliament does accept Apples censorship - since they have bought one for every representative.... :berserk2

If you want a full overview of what Apple is censoring have a look here it will not kill you but there are naked people there (Probably no candidates for the presidency of the US there - Be warned! The Danes are pretty tolerant in terms of nudity :shock: The rest of Europe will tolerate it, and US citizens should probably not click this link at all! )
And here is a another clear candidate for the Apple censorship:
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PS:
The important point here is not if you like or dislike the nudity in that authentic documentation. The point is:
If this book is allowed in Denmark and the rest of Europe - Who is Apple to censor it?

Re: Apple censorship put to the test

Posted: 17 Nov 2012, 15:43
by rolf
I have a hard time finding too much nudity there. :f

Hippies were quite a phenomenon and they were ruling the Earth when I was growing up, going to college in Berkeley. So, I know a thing or two about Hippies. The culture was/is a mixed bag, imo. This counter culture provided a profound voice in opposition to the war in Vietnam and much of the music is very good, enduring. The drugs are an Achilles heel. The culture is largely co-opted by Madison Avenue advertisers and is the sheep's clothing for the plastic hypocrites of the hip capitalist Berkeley City Council, now. I remember Grandma from Latvia telling me about her Eastern European friend, who sent a picture postcard depicting Hippies in her country and wrote, "Here are some Hooligans".

I grew up in Sunnyvale, at the edge of Silicon Valley, at the time. My mother knew Steve Wozniak's mom but it meant nothing to me. I think that *might* be Woz at the lower left of your picture, behind a goofy Gates. Some years ago, I read a newspaper story about these guys, how they shared their computing innovations in an open source fashion. Gates told the others it was fine to share amongst themselves but they should make others pay for it. So it began.

At one time, I worked in a plastics injection molding factory in Oregon, tending a machine that made cases for the Apple Power PC desktop computer. I've never owned an Apple but have heard good things about reliability (compared to Microsoft) from a friend who is in the school district IT department. My brother, GF's family and friends are quite pleased with the handheld devices, afaict. What I have seen is good technology and an entertaining user interface. However, the restrictions on how you can use it, the predatory, thieving philosophy behind it, also Jobs' legacy, negate what is good.
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They keep sending me this stuff, so :A

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Re: Apple censorship put to the test

Posted: 17 Nov 2012, 19:12
by viking60
Good slideshow there. And the pic is all MS guys
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But it does not matter they all were a part of it and as you say Apple were real pirates stealing the mouse and GUI from Xerox - before MS stole it from them.
It is kind of ironic how they attack everyone else in the business for copying their (partly stolen) stuff.

That they went from being hippie pirates to the "Moral majority" is kind of ironic too. I will bet my socks that they all have practiced some free love after having used that all to common "refreshments" (drugs). And now they are shocked by someone else documenting what they did.... Those damaging and illegal killing drugs should be fought by all means though.
I get the feeling that it is less of a problem for a president to have been under the influence of illegal substances than having had sex ...that is kind of screwed up if you ask me.
In any case:
Censorship is not groovy at all man............