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Three strikes and you are out!
Internet "criminals" downloading torrents from pirate bay will receive two warnings and then be thrown out of the internet. The model for this is the French HADOPI law.
In France you will be thrown out and refused to make a deal with other ISP's, and you have to pay all the costs of the process, including the ISP for the service you have been cut of from.
This has been inspiring for the US and they will now implement this on a "voluntary" basis. The ISP's will be given this choice, not their customers.
Comcast, Cablevision, Verizon and Time Warner Cable are among the ISP's that have made a deal with the Film and Record industry.

Supporters say this could become the most effective antipiracy program ever. Since ISPs are the Internet's gatekeepers, the theory is that network providers are in the best position to fight illegal file sharing. CNET broke the news last June that the RIAA and counterparts at the trade group for the big film studios, had managed to get the deal through--with the help of the White House

They will give you two warnings and then you are out and thus cut of from violating intellectual property.

The program, commonly referred to as "graduated response," requires that ISPs send out one or two educational notices to those customers who are accused of downloading copyrighted content illegally. If the customer doesn't stop, the ISP is then asked to send out "confirmation notices" asking that they confirm they have received notice.

This will imply that the ISP's monitor your traffic and check what sites you are visiting. There is good reason to believe that the trafic to perfectly legal sites giving medical advice etc. will get reduced traffic.
Most people will not be comfortable with their ISP knowing that they are interested in getting rid of venereal deceases or fungus.

What I cannot understand is why they are starting with the Film and Record industry? What about porn or unpatriotic support for Wikileaks? What about Nazis and Communists?
Oh and potential terrorist muslims or Snuff?

If they want to cut of people from the internet; downloading Movies and Music is the worst crime they can think of?
That is the single one activity that requires the police to transfer their authority to the ISP's?

I have a suggestion to the White house and the Film industry:
Remove all films from the internet and make it illegal to distribute them there.
Trying to control and censor the internet is not worth it - let them send their film roles all over the world in airplanes, while they slowly are realizing that the internet is a place where they make billions - not lose them.
What they should say is; thank you internet - not destroy it.

We all know that the film and music industries aren't the real reason they're doing it. The real reason is part of establishing a police state, of course, with terrorism as the real excuse.

Well it could be more understandable if they used terrorism as an excuse, but they are pulling the intellectual property card. But in terms of expanding surveillance to other areas this is effective of course...

http://www.cablelabs.com/specifications ... 110224.pdf

That document is relevant for people on Cable connections. Interception of data is built into the spec.

Yes the cable is one of many "weak" points. The possibility to fight serious crime is built in but in most cases it will take a court order to use the technology.
What our dear control junky politicians are trying to do is to lower the bar to pizza-faced teenagers downloading music.
The threat to society is rather minimal and the loss of the industry would be greater if all distribution on the internet stopped tomorrow. So what I would like to hear from them is: "Thank you for this wonderful opportunity" - But that is not going to happen I guess.
If it is built in and possible, it will be abused too -for sure!
What I cannot understand is: How come the ISP's get to be police judge and executioner? Where did the American constitution go?

All I know is one thing. We, as mentioned before, have a right to burn ourselves one backup copy of the dvds or cds that we purchase.

I am sitting here totally completely livid, because I've just bought 4 brand new dvds that I can't do that with because of some asshole named Arcamax. They have these so locked down that no matter what I do or use, I can not make a backup copy of these.

I am one who thinks that if we are going to have laws, and if they are going to be passed down in the form of "you can't do this", then there should be fairness to the law. If I can't download it to get a backup copy because of your use of software (and hardware) encryption, then it should be illegal for you to prevent me from creating the one backup copy that I'm entitled to for having bought your product.

Therefore, soon as this quarter is out and I have more time to, I am going to work on legislation for just that. If you prevent me from getting my one backup copy via whatever means (and Arcamax and other software CAN be re-written to prevent more than that), I should either a) be able to get a full refund on the product even though it's been opened, or b) be able to sue your pants off for violation of software use.

'Nuff said.

It will either be like that, or I WILL see the bastards rot in hell, because that is costing ME both time, and money. Dvds are not cheap. Neither are cds.

viking60 wrote:f it is built in and possible, it will be abused too -for sure!

Yup.

viking60 wrote:What I cannot understand is: How come the ISP's get to be police judge and executioner? Where did the American constitution go?

Nobody gives two sh!ts about any of that any more, and that is the problem. They just sit back with their dumb-ass complacent attitude. Our constitution has been literally raped and wiped out since GWB Jr (remember, he is the one this all started with IIRC), and people have been buying it hook, line, and sinker (or should I say sheeple?). Nobody has cared, so long as it's kept our guberment officials and pReZ happy. My guess is that each ISP will have some paranoid FBI agent on board, and the good ol' USA sheeple will go, "ra-ra!!!" (That is until they download something and get busted for it)

The really bad thing is that many, many people who were busted for downloading stuff were able to eventually win against the guberment (y'know, because our guberment is SO competent at things like this). Run a search. I've personally known a few. I've only known one who ever had to pay any consequences from it. That should tell you how badly this monitoring is needed, and how much it's really all about downloading stuff (and I guarantee you it isn't, that's only the "official" excuse).