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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 24 Mar 2011, 18:41

No I don't need any packages. The one I upgraded is perfectly fine and when powerpill works again I will just reinstall it. On the other box I am upgrading just now. I forgot to ignore pacman-color and for once it was up to date :) so I had to ignore it during update. No worries.
Edit:
Turns out that the update with pacman in the ignore list did not go through when I use powerpill. Going for pacman....
And that worked just fine :gpost :dance1

But I guess it still is risky running a

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pacman  -Syu
now gives dependencies for different pacman versions

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avgjør avhengigheter ...
leter etter konflikter ...
feil: feilet å forberede transaksjon (kunne ikke tilfredstille avhengigheter)
:: package-query: krever pacman<3.5
:: pacman-color: krever pacman=3.4.3
:: perl-xyne-arch: krever pacman<3.5

Nice testing this but I will go for the full upgrade on this box too - I can live without powerpill for a while.
Edit:
Done :whistle:
The pacman database is changed as of version 3.5 so you have to do a db upgrade too.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 25 Mar 2011, 04:36

Yeah, I noticed that about the db query and other stuff in the Arch forum link. Yeah, I mentioned too that it still wanted to upgrade pacman, even with it in skip in /etc/pacman.conf, but that it offered to ignore it so i took it up on that ignore 'cause that's what I wanted it to do.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 25 Mar 2011, 12:51

Yup you have pacman in the "sync first" list too. That is probably why it wants to upgrade anyway.
It looks like powerpill is not going to be maintained, so it is a question if it makes sense to keep pacman in the exclusion list
Edit:
It is official now:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Powerpill
Warning: Powerpill development has been officially discontinued: its latest version does not work with pacman>=3.5. See [1].
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 26 Mar 2011, 20:13

Even though I have it commented out using crontab, the hourly cron jobs still run. What more do I have to do? Here's crontab -e:

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# root crontab
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE MANUALLY! USE crontab -e INSTEAD

# man 1 crontab for acceptable formats:
#    <minute> <hour> <day> <month> <dow> <tags and command>
#    <@freq> <tags and command>

# SYSTEM DAILY/WEEKLY/... FOLDERS
#@hourly         ID=sys-hourly   /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.hourly
@daily          ID=sys-daily    /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.daily
@weekly         ID=sys-weekly   /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.weekly
@monthly        ID=sys-monthly  /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.monthly


Anyone know of a GUI way to do this in Arch? Would be a lot simpler.

Edit: I installed vcron, which doesn't list the hourly cron, I'm thinking because it's commented out in crontab.
The problem is, I'm still finding updatedb and crond running every hour.

I don't have cron set up for my user at all, root is the only one on this machine that has crontab. So the question remains, why is updatedb and crond running every hour?

Thanks.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 26 Mar 2011, 23:52

I don't think you should comment that out at all. It looks like a system thing.
I have the same as you but I have not commented out anything:

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:( sudo crontab -l
Passord:
# root crontab
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE MANUALLY! USE crontab -e INSTEAD

# man 1 crontab for acceptable formats:
#    <minute> <hour> <day> <month> <dow> <tags and command>
#    <@freq> <tags and command>

# SYSTEM DAILY/WEEKLY/... FOLDERS
@hourly         ID=sys-hourly   /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.hourly
@daily          ID=sys-daily    /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.daily
@weekly         ID=sys-weekly   /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.weekly
@monthly        ID=sys-monthly  /usr/sbin/run-cron /etc/cron.monthly

That is the default root cron that comes with dcron. It seems to be a part of the arch installation. If you do not want crons too run you could remove crond from the daemons in /etc/rc.conf
If you mean vixie cron by vcron then I have no experience :confused Maybe this will help:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 27 Mar 2011, 17:50

Well, it seems it's not cron doing it. I installed Vcron and checked it; it doesn't show the hourly cron because it's commented out in crontab. So, the mystery remains as to why, every hour, crond and updatedb are running anyway. What makes it more of a mystery, is that the only thing in /etc/cron.hourly is adjtime. What's even more of a mystery from there, is the only two things that had anything at all in any of the /etc/cron.* folders, was in /etc/cron.daily (the adjtime only), and in /etc/cron.daily. There was nothing in /etc/cron.weekly, or in /etc/cron.monthly.

If you could do me a favor please I'd really appreciate it? See what's in all four of those folders in Mandriva? I know it has at least *something* in them. I used to turn off the hourly cron soon as I'd install Mandriva via the MCC, so it wouldn't bog me down.

What I've done for now, was move updatedb from /etc/cron.daily to /etc/cron.monthly. I rarely need that thing to run, if at all. I think I've run it manually twice in the whole time I've been using Arch. I've also, in rc.conf, put an @ in front of crond in daemons so it would run in the background. So far, that's helping, but I'd still like to change the times of the daily and weekly crons to 4:00 a.m. (which I still can't figure out; I get the columns on times, days, dates, etc. mixed up).
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 27 Mar 2011, 18:20

They are all empty in Mandriva.
I will have a look at vcron now you made me curious.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 27 Mar 2011, 19:46

It's actually pretty cool. :)
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 29 Mar 2011, 08:52

LibreOffice!!!!

DAMN, THIS ROCKS!!! :D

I had tried to install it very early on from AUR, but it said I had to remove OpenOffice to do it. So, I tried removing OpenOffice, and it wouldn't let me, there were too many things dependent on it. They've found a way to do it!!! Now this, brings excitement to this bored computer geek! :)

/me waves bye-bye to OpenOffice.org, and says, "Don't let the door hit you in the rear on the way out!" :)
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 29 Mar 2011, 14:28

Yes I use Libre Office too!
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby dedanna1029 » 29 Mar 2011, 16:54

It's really good, isn't it? I was very pleasantly surprised when I first tried it.
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Re: Arch Linux

Postby viking60 » 29 Mar 2011, 17:55

It is good. I have not noticed anything negative compared to OO
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