Arch Linux

[dedanna1029]

Ok update today needed a pacman update. Everytime i update pacman I have to uninstall pacman-color It will be ok in a couple of days I guess so I can reinstall. But that is annoying.

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# pacman -S pacman-color
resolving dependencies...
warning: cannot resolve "pacman=3.4.1", a dependency of "pacman-color"
:: the following package(s) cannot be upgraded due to unresolvable dependencies:
      pacman-color

Do you want to skip the above package(s) for this upgrade? [y/N] y
looking for inter-conflicts...
 there is nothing to do

... It's STILL not there? W.T.F. ...

[viking60]

Patience is a virtue It will come

[dedanna1029]

It's there now.

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# pacman -S pacman-color
resolving dependencies...
looking for inter-conflicts...

Targets (1): pacman-color-3.4.2-1 [0.03 MB]

Total Download Size:    0.03 MB
Total Installed Size:   0.10 MB

Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages from archlinuxfr...
 pacman-color-3.4.2...    28.7K   41.0K/s 00:00:01 [######################] 100%
checking package integrity...
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                  [######################] 100%
(1/1) installing pacman-color                      [######################] 100%

I'm so glad - don't have time to be patient. But then I updated last night, and in that there was an update for pacman-contrib. Wondering if that had something to do with it, as pacman-color is at the same version it was.

[viking60]

I assume pacman-color did not need to be changed so they just had to adjust the dependency.

[dedanna1029]

Exactly what I was thinking...

[dedanna1029]

I have just received word on Facebook that we have a successful CLI-only Arch install from c0d3rm0nk3y. He wants to use it for coding... which he loves to do.

Maybe we'll even see some package contributions? Hope so.

[c0d3rm0nk3y]

lol.. have a few rungs on the ladder to climb before package release.. just need that killer idea..

[dedanna1029]

LOL. You'll get there.

[viking60]

CLI only is brilliant for servers (ArchServer for example). For ArchLinux I think a nice Gnome installation with Slim is fine.

[viking60]

Wow lots of KDE updates in todays update. No wonder have a look here
The updates come in Arch first - as always.

[dedanna1029]

Next stop, what to do with older packages. I don't want to just delete them right straight away, as I may need to downgrade again, but yet I don't want them filling up root. So, I'm doing as I did with Mandriva's Cooker when I ran it, and copying the files from the cache to a folder in /home first:

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:) cp -R /var/cache/pacman/pkg '/home/dedanna/Downloads/pacman packages/11-05-2010'

Then, I will run to empty the cache in /var/cache/pacman/pkg:

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su
password
pacman -Scc

Do NOT run to empty the cache:

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rm -rf /var/cache/pacman/pkg

This will delete files in the cache that pacman needs to run - and you don't want to do that. Just run the command pacman -Scc.

If you need to downgrade a package after it's been moved out of the cache, all you need do is change the folder of where you're installing from, i.e. if I need to downgrade to something that's in the folder I just copied the cache to, for example:

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pacman -U /home/dedanna/Downloads/pacman packages/11-05-2010/pkg/<packagefilename>

I guarantee you it will fly.

Immediately following the KDE upgrade today:

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# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                   10M  292K  9.8M   3% /dev
/dev/disk/by-uuid/b8036618-3036-4ec9-b50c-546fcf082db3
                       25G  9.1G   16G  37% /
/dev/sdc1             299G  283G   16G  95% /media/FreeAgent_Drive
shm                   502M  2.2M  500M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1              99M   15M   80M  16% /boot
/dev/sda4             127G   99G   28G  78% /home

After copying the files over and running pacman -Scc:

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# df -h
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev                   10M  292K  9.8M   3% /dev
/dev/disk/by-uuid/b8036618-3036-4ec9-b50c-546fcf082db3
                       25G  8.7G   17G  35% /
/dev/sdc1             299G  283G   16G  95% /media/FreeAgent_Drive
shm                   502M  2.2M  500M   1% /dev/shm
/dev/sda1              99M   15M   80M  16% /boot
/dev/sda4             127G   99G   28G  78% /home

The upgrade was 896.98 Mbs, in 248 files. I gained back almost a gig in root.

However, I am considering removing KDE. As pretty as it is in Arch, I went in to check it out for a bit. It took 5 minutes for me to go running back to Gnome.

It's very slow and bulky, and the 15 damn clicks to do one simple thing is unreal. Plus, trying to find how to do anything is a mess. I mean a real mess. One can't just click on something, and expect it to go. I still think they hosed it with the whole plasma deal, among other things for KDE4. Wonder how Arch did with XFCE? I have a hankering to try it again.

[viking60]

I am running both Gnome and KDE with Slim (not Gdm) and both run fairly OK. To get things done I use Gnome too. It simply is more stable and easier (for me) to handle.