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One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 07 Oct 2014, 21:59
by viking60
As we have reported you can download and test Windows 10. Microsoft wants your feedback and will listen to what you say....very thoroughly.
If you accept the Terms - which you must - then you have accepted that Microsoft can pretty much keylog everything you do.

Microsoft wants to track you online and collect data about your computing habits.

Microsoft is not deceiving anyone here - they are open about it. All you have to do is to actually read what you accept. Redmond has this to say about it:
With Windows 10, we're kicking off the largest ever open collaborative development effort that will change the way we build and deliver Windows,

And in order to achieve that they need to monitor you:
Users who join the Windows Insider Program and opt-in to the Windows 10 Technical Preview are choosing to provide data and feedback that will help shape the best Windows experience for our customers.

To be specific:
Redmond reserves the right to collect such info as, "your name, email address, preferences and interests; browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; and application usage."


So to sum it up:
You help Microsoft make the best Windows ever... for that you will spill your guts and sacrifice privacy and probably not be able to downgrade the Windows you needed to install the tech preview on - but you will get the pleasure of paying full price for the end result.

Which will be a much better Windows - thanks to you.

Deals like that don't come along every day... Jump on it - be a part of it - or .... don't

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Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 08 Oct 2014, 02:27
by Snorkasaurus
I am slowly being forced to put XP behind me and I hate it. My current solution is to just put a bare bones Windows 7 on most machines and then run XP virtual machines inside them. That way I get the hardware support I need without having to look at Aero, or Metro, or... well, you get the idea. If I can squeeze just eight more years out of XP I am hoping that Linux DE's will come far enough along (or revert far enough back) to be usable. :-)

Windows 10??? Maybe in 2035!

S.

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 14:50
by viking60
Search no more; I have found the perfect solution for you:
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:lolup

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 09 Oct 2014, 15:18
by Snorkasaurus
Well the music is terrible but the fact that it works is awesome. Now, where do I plug in my PS/2 keyboard? :lol:
S.

Becoming true Admin on Windows 10

Posted: 17 Nov 2014, 23:37
by viking60
If you have accepted the MS Prison entry terms to test Windows 10 then we have a super tip for you.

Windows 10 will not activate the built in administrator account by default.

To activate it open cmd as admin and type

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net user

That will show all user accounts.

To activate the inactive admin account type:

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net user administrator /active:yes


Now you have set up Windows 10 in a way that makes it way easier to destroy it :-D Anyone with access to the computer will have admin rights. because there is no password.
With this activated you have full user account control (UAC) and can delete accounts.

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Net user username /delete

This will not work for built in accounts.

If you want to set a password for the admin account type:

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net user administrator *

You will be prompted by the usual type password twice drill.

And finally the most sensible command of them all is to deactivate the admin command:

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net user administrator /active:no


This is pretty much like a Linux terminal session, so I guess it is true - MS loves Linux.

If this is new? No the hidden admin account has been there since Vista in XP it was activated by default. :-D
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viewtopic.php?f=25&t=544

The brand new and shocking thing, is that you can do this with Windows 10 too +1

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 01:06
by Snorkasaurus
Interesting... I have always logged in to Windows with admin accounts and never found a problem with it. Funny, same with Linux.
S.

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 17:15
by viking60
I have said it before: That is not a good idea (even if I know that you do it anyway :-D )

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 18 Nov 2014, 20:14
by Snorkasaurus
viking60 wrote:I have said it before: That is not a good idea (even if I know that you do it anyway :-D )

I have heard plenty of times that sooner or later I will damage my OS or infect myself with junkware by using admin accounts, but it simply isn't true. I have been doing it for over 20 years and not once have I ever thought to myself
Imaginary me wrote:Damn, I really screwed that up. If only I had been logged in as a non-elevated account I never would have done so much damage!

I have managed servers, desktops, a wide range of network devices, large networks, small networks, local accounts, domain accounts, virtual accounts, Windows machines, Linux machines, Solaris machines, DOS machines, professionally and personally... but have never been screwed by using elevated accounts. I am NOT saying that an OS can't be damaged or be infected with junkware, I am saying that logging in to non-elevated accounts doesn't stop either of those things from happening. And I am not "just lucky" or "lying". Any damage that can happen while logged in as an elevated account can just as easily happen on a non-elevated account via UAC or sudo. The real defense against badware is for the user to understand what is being run, not OS developers to make it harder to run by clicking "Yes" or typing five extra characters at the beginning of a command line.

My 3¢
S.

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 19 Nov 2014, 00:31
by viking60
Well I haven't changed my mind :mrgreen:
The sudo discussion is well known too and many consider it a security risk. In general you can do more as admin - including more damage.

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 19 Nov 2014, 00:32
by Snorkasaurus
Is there anything you can do as root that you can't do with sudo?
S.

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 19 Nov 2014, 01:26
by viking60
Yes it happens on some distros that you can do something as root that you cannot do with sudo.
Su switches you to the root user account and requires the root account’s password. Sudo runs a single command with root privileges – it doesn’t switch to the root user or require a separate root user password.

Re: One more thing before you decide to test Windows 10

Posted: 06 Dec 2014, 00:39
by dedanna1029
Which to me is extremely dangerous and good reason not to use sudo, the fact that you can do anything at all that admin or root should be doing, as a regular user.

For that matter, even though we have the freedom to do so, running out of any admin account is dangerous. For techy-types that may be one thing, but I've never seen a new or illiterate user not screw something up running out of admin. Including myself.

I despise sudo, BTW, and refuse to use it. I'll just damn well not be lazy and sign into root if I have to, but then I know what I'm doing with it.